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  • A New Addiction Intervention Book: INTERVIEW with Dr. Louise Stanger

    A New Addiction Intervention Book: INTERVIEW with Dr. Louise Stanger

    Addiction and Families

    Addiction affects an estimated one in three American families. So, how do these families get help? Some struggle along on their own. Other families seek help directly treatment providers: detox clinics, psychotherapists, addiction treatment centers, or addiction counselors. Still other families are just lost.

    Still, there is one group of professionals that bridge the gap between families and treatment…

    Interventionists.

    In the next decades, behavioral healthcare professionals will need to increasingly both identify and refer families coping with substance use disorders to treatment. And interventionists practicing solid principles taken from social work and family systems theory may hold the key to our collective progress.

    A Book That Can Help

    A new book called, “The Definitive Guide to Addiction Intervention: A Collective Strategy” introduces clinicians to best practices in addiction interventions. It literally bridges the gap between the theory and practice of successful intervention. Today, we speak with the originator of this strategy, Dr. Louise Stanger.

    Dr. Stanger has developed and refined her invitational method of interventions over decades of working with families. She has performed thousands of family interventions throughout the United States and abroad. And we’re pleased to have her here for a digital interview!

    ADDICTION BLOG: What was your inspiration for writing this book?

    DR. LOUISE STANGER: After growing up in a family with substance abuse and writing about many of these stories in my memoir and in the public sphere, I started to think about what message I’d like to leave for future generations of social workers in this space.

    I maintain that it is very important for the future generations of social workers, psychologists, marriage and family counselors, alcohol and other the drug counselors, doctors, nurses, etc. to not just read one book about one person’s methodology, but to be able to learn a variety of different strategies. Questions like where strategies come from, what is the evidence behind intervention strategies, how have these strategies developed and changed, etc. to inform the reader and open their eyes to the broader scope of intervention and its modalities. As such, I like to think of these strategies as “invitations to change.” The idea is to provide a textbook at your disposal to learn and teach from.

    The truth is that 155 people die from opioids every day – it’s a global crisis, and we need new ways to train professionals across many levels in schools and in practice to help people and their families.

    ADDICTION BLOG: What do you think is the most important message that clinicians can “take home” after a reading?

    DR. LOUISE STANGER: The most important message is that change is possible.

    The key to this, which is talked about in the book, is CIS or Collective Intervention Strategies. This means that in order for an intervention to be successful, a collective team of family members, friends, colleagues, associates, business partners, managers and co-workers must be assembled to bring change in a person’s life, which is the intervention part of it. And finally, strategies, in that nothing is set in stone, we adapt to the unique needs of each individual.

    As a whole, Collective Intervention Strategies is a powerful model for inviting change that readers can take home.

    ADDICTION BLOG: How do most people or families get help for addiction?

    DR. LOUISE STANGER: How do they get help? That’s a great question.

    Talking with and connecting with professionals that are trained in process addictions, substance abuse, chronic pain, etc. You can also get help. Addiction is always bigger than the families, so it’s always best to seek out professional help from a mental health clinic, substance abuse clinic, or clinicians. Help is available. Families don’t have to do it alone. Not alone. For example, they can do 12-step. But when their hearts are breaking, they call.

    ADDICTION BLOG: Do you find that people misunderstand the field of mental health treatment and/or the work that you do? Do you find professionals even have a bit of trouble when it comes to certain areas of your work?

    DR. LOUISE STANGER: I think people by far don’t understand how substance abuse and mental health interface and work hand in hand. They don’t understand the duality or triality of what happens. The two are not mutually exclusive, and as such, must both be assessed (along with any other influencers) to get the best possible picture of the person and begin to build a comprehensive treatment plan.

    For instance, I appreciate the ASAM definition of addiction – it’s a disease of the brain and causes changes in brain chemistry. As such, people are afraid to address the complexity of humans and all the aspects. Therefore, when helping a family or a loved one, it’s very important to understand and learn about that particular individual, you must do a retrospective – bio, psycho, and social – to understand how to help and what kinds of treatment will fit their life.

    As for the professional sphere, there are many people who claim they are pros but have not been properly trained. I don’t think a 5 day training makes one an interventionist. Sometimes it feels like the Wild, Wild West out there. I think there needs to be more education and schooling, professional classes and programs that illustrate intervention as a real treatment option. We need it in our undergraduate, graduate and doctoral programs, across fields of work including counseling, nursing, pre-med, etc. to build it out as a field of study.

    ADDICTION BLOG: How do you hope this book will impact the field of substance use disorder treatment? Where do you hope to see treatment advance within the coming years?

    DR. LOUISE STANGER: My hope is that this book is adopted by both training centers, colleges and universities and hospitals, behavioral health care treatment centers, the legal system centers, senior living centers, doctors, Nurses, Funeral Directors, etc.

    This book takes a deep dive and discusses clinical and reverse interventions, which can be performed in a variety of milieus, shedding light on aspects of intervention that aren’t always talked about in trainings and certification programs. I hope professionals will hire and cultivate staff trained in the strategies talked about in the book, so that knowledge, standards and practices are a part of their tool box.

    In coming years, we are going to see more telephone and internet-based treatment options, the use of AI and other technological advances. Though nothing will replace relationships, we will have higher standards based on improved educational qualifications and higher standards of accreditation for treatment centers – all good things for behavioral health care. The ongoing opioid epidemic will spur change by demanding robust and low cost treatment options to address this issue.

    We will also address ethical issues. For example, the hiring of professionals for treatment centers will need to address marijuana legalization. Questions will arise: do treatment centers have progressive abstinence? Or a firm baseline? Can hired professionals use one substance over another? The ethics of these questions will come to fruition as the issues play out over the next couple of years.

    ADDICTION BLOG: Would you offer a bit of insight for our readers as to how they can best handle trauma and addiction in their family? What are some of the best steps they can take themselves if facing a drug or alcohol problem within the home?

    DR. LOUISE STANGER: The first step is to define trauma as an overwhelming experience that cannot be integrated and one that elicits multiple defenses and dysregulates the person. Or, it can be described as a stress that causes physical or emotional harm that you cannot remove yourself from.

    Then, we may unpack the etiology of the trauma, which may be objective or subjective. Objective trauma is what took place i.e. I fell off a ladder, I was told I was no good, I would never amount to anything, my father was emotionally abusive, I was in a car accident, etc. Subjective trauma is how the person perceives what took place and the emotional aftershocks. This can come from adverse childhood experiences, and the effects of trauma is cumulative over time.

    Once this is understood, seeking out and talking with trained professionals who can put you on the path to recovery is integral to the process.

    Professionals must ask: how can we help clients who experience trauma and then substance abuse/addiction rise to their best possible selves? Also, it is important to give treatment recommendations to other family members so they too can be the best they are. This is a holistic approach to treating a wounded person, and it always comes back around to CIS or Collective Intervention Strategies as the best approach.

    Folks may also consider visiting a 12-Step group such as Alcoholics Anonymous, Al-anon, Narcotics anonymous, etc. And of course there is me in my own independent practice. I always tell my clients that help is just a phone call away.

    ADDICTION BLOG: Through the process of writing, did you learn any important lessons or come across information that you weren’t expecting?

    DR. LOUISE STANGER: I didn’t have any big surprises. I found it humbling that with all the research and time working on this book, I circled back to the one truth that has been consistent in my work – it is imperative to meet the client where they are at. It’s about understanding who they are, where they come from, their family dynamics, traumas, and their place in the world.

    The best theory in the world won’t take into account this human element. With unique people, a multitude of cultures, gender expressions and the changes in our genetic diversity, we must embrace difference as a teacher. That way, you can help plan a strategy that meets their unique needs.

    ADDICTION BLOG: Are there any future projects you’re currently working on and/or have in mind? What kind of impact are you hoping to leave on the mental health world with the addition of this book?

    DR. LOUISE STANGER: I continue to write public blogs – openly discussing the major topics in the behavioral health field. One thing I will wrestle with through public discourse, presentations, trainings and daily practice is ethics in the digital age. Specifically with marijuana legalization, how will this affect the workforce? There will be a multitude of implications and I’m excited to dive in and explore with my practice, clients and continued commitment to service of the behavioral health industry.

    Finally, my hope is that this book is adopted my many universities and schools across the globe. I’m excited about the e-platform, which will make it a living source of knowledge for professionals to keep up to date and relevant for future generations. Also, I hope that whatever my next writing venture is – whether it’s a book, a collection of blogs, or more thought pieces – that it will seep into the mainstream and become a larger public discourse than we’ve seen related to these topics. A wider audience would help ease the stigma of substance abuse and mental health in the public sphere.

    ADDICTION BLOG: Do you have some inspiration you can leave for our readers who are currently handling addiction for themselves or a loved one?

    DR. LOUISE STANGER: Keep doing what you’re doing. As I put in my memoir, keep falling up, which means that stumbles, detours and falls are part of the human experience, so long as you’re out there living and moving forward.

    I strive to look for strengths and goodness in people so everyone may rise to their best possible selves. I hope that readers and those out there struggling with these kinds of issues will do the same. Help is just a phone call away and hope is possible. Dig deeper, think harder, look further, rise stronger.

    ADDICTION BLOG: Do you have anything else you’d like to add?

    DR. LOUISE STANGER: Thank you for the opportunity to be a part of your blog. I appreciated working with you as an editor. Your contributions are immeasurable.

    In closing, I want people to know every day they are inviting people to change, help is available, solutions are possible.

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  • Addiction Breathing and Meditation Techniques: An INTERVIEW with Nathaniel V. Dust

    Addiction Breathing and Meditation Techniques: An INTERVIEW with Nathaniel V. Dust

    Breath is Life

    When you think of it, the one action that involves us with the universe is our breath. We breathe in. We breathe out. However, breathing is not restricted to the physical action of taking in air. It can become a conscious means of communication with…well, with our Higher Power.

    So, if you’re in recovery…how might conscious breathing really help you?

    We’ve been introduced to a man who’s been looking that question square in the face. His name is Nathaniel Hodder-Shipp, a.k.a. Nathaniel V. Dust; he’s been practicing mind-body awareness for years. In fact, Nathaniel has used a number of techniques – with a special focus on breathwork – to help thousands of people process trauma, disarm negative thought patterns, and maintain healthy and happy relationships with themselves and loved ones.

    Read on for more on his work using breathing techniques, dreams, and tarot cards (tarot cards?!) as tools in your addiction recovery. FYI, his websites are breathworklosangeles.com and breathworkforrecovery.com  Then, feel free to ask Nathaniel your burning questions at the end of the article in the comments section. We love to hear from our readers…so please write in!

    ADDICTION BLOG: What’s the most frequent request that you receive from someone seeking healing from substance use disorder?

    NATHANIEL V. DUST: Most clients I encounter just want to feel good in their bodies. It’s not always framed that way, but most requests come down to that.

    People who struggle with substance use disorders use drugs and alcohol to find relief. Maybe at first it started out as some fun, or just feeling good in general, but trauma and adverse childhood experiences (ACEs) change the way the brain and nervous system develop, so people seek out the comfort of drugs and alcohol for the ways they help them regulate their nervous systems, numb the pain they’re in, and offer feelings of goodness, which they previously may not have been able to experience as deeply as folks without trauma.

    People who use drugs and alcohol to find relief like that struggle to just feel okay. People want a tangible experience quickly, i.e. instant gratification, just like they were previously able to achieve with drugs and alcohol. Fortunately, breathwork creates relief in just a short amount of time.

    ADDICTION BLOG: Of the modalities you practice, in your experience, which is if the most effective for coping with/ dealing with addiction?

    NATHANIEL V. DUST: Breathwork is certainly the quickest and most profound. What I really love about breathwork is that people feel something happen right away. I don’t often encounter clients who don’t have an experience while practicing breathwork.

    Because addiction is rooted in trauma, adverse childhood experiences, and a dysregulated nervous system, breathwork helps people deal with the core issues surrounding their addictions. Once a person can deal with the trauma and adverse childhood experiences, and learn to regulate their nervous system, it’s a game changer. Things that once triggered them to the point of needing to reach out for a drug or a drink don’t have as much power over them. There’s freedom in that.

    Studies show the efficacy of voluntary regulated breathing practices and how they can help people learn to diminish the trauma responses locked in their bodies. Breathwork helps people reduce the amount of time they spend in a triggered place. Trauma doesn’t just go away, but you can reduce the time spent in reaction and offer relief without having to pick up their substance of choice.

    ADDICTION BLOG: What is Breathwork? 

    NATHANIEL V. DUST: Breathwork is a general term describing breathing techniques.

    The practice I utilize is a two-stage breathing technique done through the mouth while lying down on your back. This practice has its roots in India, as with many breathing techniques, and has been made accessible by my mentor and teacher David Elliott. This technique allows a person to quiet their mind long enough for them to experience what it’s like to be in their body. We’re also helping them regulate their nervous system, which is the foundation of many trauma modalities.

    During a breathwork session, people are able to drop the defense mechanisms that have kept emotions buried and suppressed for years. Once the defensive construct is lowered, people can access the emotions that have unconsciously driven destructive behavior patterns. Plus, they often walk out of a session feeling a sense of euphoria and relief, which are biggies when dealing with SUDs.

    ADDICTION BLOG: How can Breathwork help people with addictions? For example, how effective is breath therapy for dealing with cravings, drugs or other? How does it work?

    NATHANIEL V. DUST: The wonderful thing about using breathwork is that a person can change their experience in a matter of moments. I often tell clients they’ll find relief more quickly with breathing than it would take them to have their plug deliver drugs.

    If a person is in a tough spot, they always have access to their breath. They don’t need anything special. To be able to change the way they’re feeling in less than 15 minutes is a priceless tool.

    There are many medications that can help dampen the effects of the sympathetic nervous system, but none of them correct the underactivity of the parasympathetic nervous system. This allows a person to reduce their anxiety and free themselves from emotional reactivity, which often pulls them back into cycles of recidivism.

    ADDICTION BLOG: How long does the treatment with Breathwork last?

    NATHANIEL V. DUST: It depends. I work a lot in treatment centers, so a group can be anywhere from 45 minutes to 90 minutes. I like to breathe for at least 35 minutes. It can seem like a lifetime, but with the right playlist, it goes by pretty quickly.

    ADDICTION BLOG: Can people diagnosed with addiction practice Breathwork by themselves, or will they always need guidance? 

    NATHANIEL V. DUST: Once they learn the technique, they can practice it at home. I recommend people develop a daily practice of at least 10 minutes. Then they can come do a tune-up with a practitioner from time to time or come to our weekly donation-based support group every Tuesday evening in Los Angeles, called The Recovery Circle.

    We run these support groups so people of all backgrounds and income levels can access the powerful healing afforded by breathwork. We welcome anyone seeking recovery of any kind; recovery from trauma, substance use disorders, PTSD, or mental illness.

    ADDICTION BLOG: Many people may be fearful of clairvoyance…How might someone exploring spirituality in addiction recovery understand the work of reading tarot cards?

    NATHANIEL V. DUST: I usually frame it as a way for people to identify obstacles preventing them from attaining what they truly want in the world. I don’t tell the future, I help people create it.

    It’s viewed as a woo-woo modality but in the right hands, it’s anything but. We take a look at what may be contributing to a person’s unhappiness or locking them in destructive patterns. If a person comes in, say, looking to have questions answered about a relationship they’re in, we pull some cards and they’ll tell us a story about what’s going on, and identify possible solutions. The tarot is not about fortune telling, it’s about cocreation.

    ADDICTION BLOG: How can someone identify and develop a similar gift of healing like those you’ve discovered?

    NATHANIEL V. DUST: I feel most people have these skills already, its just a matter of practice, practice, practice. Each one of us is inherently intuitive, but through conscious practice, we can develop the kind of relationship with their intuition that can change everything for them.

    Meditation is an important facet to developing intuition, so I recommend people start there. Breathwork is an active meditation that allows a person to access and feel their own energy, which is the basis of intuition. Once you can learn to identify what’s yours versus what’s everyone else’s, you’re well on your way to developing your intuition.

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